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B412 endorsement required

Postby helicopspeeder » Mon Jul 2 2018, 04:43

Can anyone tell me where I can get a B412 endorsement please? I’m trying to find out if I can do the initial endorsement on my CASA license at Bell in Texas or in Dubai (yes I’ve sent emails). I recently did factory training at Agusta and CASA won’t recognise it as a flight review so I can’t imagine them recognising a new endorsement.
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby Evil Twin » Mon Jul 2 2018, 04:46

Yes you can get it done overseas. I did my 412 rating at flight safety in Dallas in December however, you need to be sure to get all of the paperwork correct as clarc are a tad pedantic about it. FS also did an IPC but as it hadn't been notified prior to CASA it wasn't recognised :roll: . I had to go back and forth to FS a couple of times to get extra paperwork. Not sure about the flight review though, might be worth a phone call or two.

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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby helicopspeeder » Mon Jul 2 2018, 06:31

Thanks ET. Do you remember how much it cost and how long it took?
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby Evil Twin » Mon Jul 2 2018, 06:49

I wasn’t paying luckily so no idea in cost but course was two weeks, week one for theory week two flying.
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby helicopspeeder » Mon Jul 2 2018, 07:58

No worries. Thanks,
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby ballslapper » Tue Jul 3 2018, 06:54

Toll and LifeFlight (probs others too) can probably do them in Oz as well. Would be in an actual machine though so not sure how that would stack up in $. Might be worth considering.

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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby helicopspeeder » Tue Jul 3 2018, 06:57

Thanks Balls, I didn’t think of them
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby Eric Hunt » Tue Jul 3 2018, 07:23

Might be worth checking if CA$A still considers the 212 and 412 to be the same endorsement - I was able to slide across from the 212 to the 412 with just a checkride and a quiz on the newer systems.

Maybe there are more 212 operators who can thus help you out?
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby Evil Twin » Tue Jul 3 2018, 07:27

Good point Eric, yes they do, is the answer as my licence states both. Just thought that Kestrel may be another possible for in country rating. That would be in the aircraft too.
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby helicopspeeder » Wed Jul 4 2018, 00:11

Thanks for the suggestions. EH, was the quiz and checkride to switch from 212 to 412 a company requirement or CASA requirement?
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby havick » Wed Jul 4 2018, 00:45

helicopspeeder wrote:Thanks for the suggestions. EH, was the quiz and checkride to switch from 212 to 412 a company requirement or CASA requirement?
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The CASA type rating is issued as BH212/412 or maybe the other way around without checking my license.

That being said, it’s very unwise to jump right into a 412 if you’ve only ever flown a 212 without some differences training. Same goes for the BK117/EC145.

Bonus of doing a 412 rating at kestrel is you will have the opportunity to fly various models of 412’s as well as 212’s if you so desire.
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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby Fill-level » Wed Jul 4 2018, 02:51

Differences Type Training is a CASA requirement , and can be conducted by a Type Rated Instructor.

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Re: B412 endorsement required

Postby Eric Hunt » Wed Jul 4 2018, 05:12

EH, was the quiz and checkride to switch from 212 to 412 a company requirement or CASA requirement?


It had been 8 years since I flew a 212, so it was pretty much a company requirement. CA$A wasn't quite so intrusive 11 years ago.

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