Hircher wrote:+1
Has anything positive happened with Part 61?
More work opportunity for low hour guys as more students train overseas to avoid paying for 150hrs?
Hircher wrote:+1
Has anything positive happened with Part 61?
Coriolis wrote:Can anyone imagine what we could achieve as an industry if we all weren't so bl**dy negative!
hand in pants wrote:Here are some positives for me:
#1. I will now be doing 4 flight reviews every two years instead of one.
#2. I will no longer have to do my instructor rating renewal. First issued on 17/12/1990 Grade 2 and 17/9/1992 Grade 1
#3. I will no longer have to renew my aeroplane instrument rating. First issued 15/6/1998
#4. I will not have to worry about low level flying rating. Even though I will continue to fly low level as required.
#5. I will no long require CRM.
#6. I will no longer require HUET. (this and #5 due to the fact I won't be doing fire fighting as I won't have a fire fighting endorsement, you know the one that they bought in with out knowing what would be required, who could do the endorsement and what syllabus would be used).
#7 I will no longer be doing sling work as I believe I now need a review on that one as well.
So, a pretty positive out look for me. Lots of money saved. Although I now have to pay for 3 more flight reviews.
One other positive, as promised by those who thought this all up, no cost to me.
Are you saying if you are endorsed for a R22 and R44 you have to do a review in both aircraft or are they the same 'type' ?
CYHeli wrote:Are you saying if you are endorsed for a R22 and R44 you have to do a review in both aircraft or are they the same 'type' ?
The new instrument will require a flight review in EITHER the R22 OR the R44 and one will cover the other.
Both will cover the Single Engine Class, but a flight review in a another aircraft from the single engine list will not cover the Robinson R22 or R44.
The R66 is treated the same as the other aircraft in the single engine class, for example the B206.
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CYHeli wrote:UAT and I have chatted over the phone, but for the rest, the R22 and R44 will be in the Single Engine Class and therefore will not each be a Type that requires a Flight Test. They will have particular requirements of an individual flight review.
(Surprise) All helicopter make/models require that a pilot receive training and then a flight test (for a type) or a flight review (for the class) to be permitted to fly that make/model. So, if you haven't received training on a particular make/model, don't fly it!
The R22 & R44 will be in the SE Class and the ability to fly an aircraft under the class will require a flight test for the first one only (61.750) and this test is normally covered by the actual licence flight test (RPL, PPL or CPL). You are licensed to fly the aircraft you did your licence test in.
Each aircraft make/model that comes after that will require training and a... (see above)
Now, an important issue for those that are training right now. If you initially train in one aircraft ( let's pick an R22 or H300) and go solo, etc and then complete the last 20 hours in another and do your licence test in the second one. You are not licensed to fly the R22/H300 until you complete a flight review in that aircraft. Even though you have gone solo, etc in it! It doesn't matter which order or which aircraft you train in, you have can only fly the ones that you have successfully completed a test or review in.
CYHeli wrote:
The R22 & R44 will be in the SE Class and the ability to fly an aircraft under the class will require a flight test for the first one only (61.750) and this test is normally covered by the actual licence flight test (RPL, PPL or CPL). You are licensed to fly the aircraft you did your licence test in.
wheatbix wrote:While on the topics of flight reviews/proficiency checks - does anyone know whether now with the implementation of part 61 do these still need to be done under the banner of a flying school or is a grade 1 able to conduct them (along with other low level/sling/nvfr proficiency check) him/herself?
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