Blackhawks for Australia

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Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Firehawkforeffect » Wed Jul 5 2017, 09:25

Strong TRumour that an Australian Operator has inked a deal that will see up to 20 refurbished Blackhawks make their way here over the next couple years. Fully supported by Sikorsky!!! This is exciting news for all aussie pilots and engineers!!
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Heli truck » Thu Jul 6 2017, 06:29

You will need a FAA licence to fly them...
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Postby The Ozzie Boy » Thu Jul 6 2017, 07:06

I gather Scone will be there base then
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Yakking » Thu Jul 6 2017, 07:24

Heli truck wrote:You will need a FAA licence to fly them...


Why?

If they are VH registered, then you'll need a CASA qual.
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby arrrj » Thu Jul 6 2017, 07:43

Cool. I want to fly one.

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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby NZHelo » Thu Jul 6 2017, 10:49

Great, another cream job for some ex military guys
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Sadflute » Thu Jul 6 2017, 11:00

I'll believe it when I see it
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Helical » Thu Jul 6 2017, 13:37

I came across this photo on a fire fighting group a few days ago. Someone developing belly tanks for Blackhawks.
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby havick » Thu Jul 6 2017, 13:49

NZHelo wrote:Great, another cream job for some ex military guys


Hiw do you figure? In the US almost all the UH60 and chinook fire pilots are civilians with longline and firefighting experience
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Heliduck » Thu Jul 6 2017, 16:37

Yakking wrote:
Heli truck wrote:You will need a FAA licence to fly them...


Why?

If they are VH registered, then you'll need a CASA qual.


John McDermott told me years ago that an FAA licence wasn't required to fly an N registered machine in Oz.
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Firefish » Thu Jul 6 2017, 20:33

Heliduck wrote:
Yakking wrote:
Heli truck wrote:You will need a FAA licence to fly them...


Why?

If they are VH registered, then you'll need a CASA qual.


John McDermott told me years ago that an FAA licence wasn't required to fly an N registered machine in Oz.



True story. You just need an Aussie rating. You only need an FAA if you plan to fly N reg outside of Australia.
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby tinman » Thu Jul 6 2017, 21:13

havick wrote:
NZHelo wrote:Great, another cream job for some ex military guys


Hiw do you figure? In the US almost all the UH60 and chinook fire pilots are civilians with longline and firefighting experience



American imports then, who else has 100 hours on type....
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby NZHelo » Thu Jul 6 2017, 22:45

THIS^^^^^^^^
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Dopo » Thu Jul 6 2017, 23:54

Coming from the Black Hawk tribe, I think its more than a rumor. And with that many frames it will be VH operation with AUS pilots and engineers. Plenty of ex US Mil Black Hawks on offer and given AUS ADF is one of the biggest Black Hawk operators outside USA and one of the first to buy Black Hawk, there will be plenty of ex ADF Black Hawk experience in AUS to get a fleet of 20 up and running.

Bring back the Duck :)
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Iknowboats » Sun Jul 9 2017, 13:35

What work do they have planned for them and who's the operator?
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby havick » Sun Jul 9 2017, 15:21

Dopo wrote:Coming from the Black Hawk tribe, I think its more than a rumor. And with that many frames it will be VH operation with AUS pilots and engineers. Plenty of ex US Mil Black Hawks on offer and given AUS ADF is one of the biggest Black Hawk operators outside USA and one of the first to buy Black Hawk, there will be plenty of ex ADF Black Hawk experience in AUS to get a fleet of 20 up and running.

Bring back the Duck :)


At least if they're through an Australian entity, the money will stay in Australia.

I wonder what they will do with them in the off season though.
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Jabberwocky » Mon Jul 10 2017, 11:17

What's the realistic specs on what these things can achieve? Would be cool to see them around. Would they take on a 214?
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Guy Incognito » Mon Jul 10 2017, 11:49

That's a big investment in to a part of the industry that has been pretty underwhelming the last few years. Always due for a big one I guess...
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby Dopo » Mon Jul 10 2017, 23:20

Jabberwocky wrote:What's the realistic specs on what these things can achieve? Would be cool to see them around. Would they take on a 214?


A Black Hawk with Delta engines, at 1900 plus shp each and a cargo hook at 9000 lbs, upgraded main transmission, can pick up a BEL214 and take it to the job. :twisted: Does that put it into perspective :shock:
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Re: Blackhawks for Australia

Postby havick » Tue Jul 11 2017, 03:41

Helical wrote:I came across this photo on a fire fighting group a few days ago. Someone developing belly tanks for Blackhawks.


Doesn't look like the tank will have much head pressure looking at that photo. The LA county Blackhawks had extended oleos put on their machines so they could fit a tank with greater depth to give greater head pressure and punch power.
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