CPL Nav question
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CPL Nav question
Looking for a way to find an aerodrome by an ICAO code.
I am getting questions that for example asks for a flight from YMLT - YDPI - YKII and need a way to quickly find these aerodromes in ERSA so i can locate them on charts quickly.
I’m sure theres an easy way, but have searched through AIP & ERSA and cant find a quick solution.
Any help would be great.
VB
I am getting questions that for example asks for a flight from YMLT - YDPI - YKII and need a way to quickly find these aerodromes in ERSA so i can locate them on charts quickly.
I’m sure theres an easy way, but have searched through AIP & ERSA and cant find a quick solution.
Any help would be great.
VB
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G’day VBlade,
Have a look in Aerodromes and ALA’s Decoded. IND GEN pg 29 onwards.
https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/ersa/LND__16AUG2018.pdf
Have a look in Aerodromes and ALA’s Decoded. IND GEN pg 29 onwards.
https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aip/current/ersa/LND__16AUG2018.pdf
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PCA Chart
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Google works too mate!
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Re: CPL Nav question
Thanks for the replies.
The problem with those solutions is
With IND Gen pg 24 , codes are not in alphabetical order, only the aerodrome names are, so if you’re looking for a set of aerodromes when you have only been given the codes like YMLT, and YMMB for example, alot of time is being wasted trying to find them.
Going direct to the back of PCA is the same thing, many do fall alphabetically but there are plenty that dont.
These are the current methods I am using but taking up so much time finding them sometimes. Trying to find a more efficient way.
Also, No google in a exam.
VB
The problem with those solutions is
With IND Gen pg 24 , codes are not in alphabetical order, only the aerodrome names are, so if you’re looking for a set of aerodromes when you have only been given the codes like YMLT, and YMMB for example, alot of time is being wasted trying to find them.
Going direct to the back of PCA is the same thing, many do fall alphabetically but there are plenty that dont.
These are the current methods I am using but taking up so much time finding them sometimes. Trying to find a more efficient way.
Also, No google in a exam.
VB
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Re: CPL Nav question
With IND Gen pg 24 , codes are not in alphabetical order,
You might need to have another look. As they are in alphabetical order. As mentioned from page 29 onwards.
Good luck with the exam.
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Thanks Twistgrip,
Ill work with that
Ill work with that
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It may be worth mentioning:
YMLT
Y = airfield
M = under melbourne centre (B for Brisbane or P for Perth)
LT = Launceston
If the airfield is uncontrolled it will not include the second letter as an M, B or P, it will simply be a 3 letter shortened version of the airfield name (YKII = King Island)
YMLT
Y = airfield
M = under melbourne centre (B for Brisbane or P for Perth)
LT = Launceston
If the airfield is uncontrolled it will not include the second letter as an M, B or P, it will simply be a 3 letter shortened version of the airfield name (YKII = King Island)
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Re: CPL Nav question
bl@ckers wrote:It may be worth mentioning:
YMLT
Y = airfield
M = under melbourne centre (B for Brisbane or P for Perth)
LT = Launceston
If the airfield is uncontrolled it will not include the second letter as an M, B or P, it will simply be a 3 letter shortened version of the airfield name (YKII = King Island)
Thanks Bl@ckers, that helps understand it better.
My main issue was I was using ERSA IND gen “encode”, and not “decode” but sorted now.
Clearly I need to be more thorough in the reading.
Thanks again.
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Learnt something new today. Thanks a lot mate
bl@ckers wrote:It may be worth mentioning:
YMLT
Y = airfield
M = under melbourne centre (B for Brisbane or P for Perth)
LT = Launceston
If the airfield is uncontrolled it will not include the second letter as an M, B or P, it will simply be a 3 letter shortened version of the airfield name (YKII = King Island)
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Y = AUSTRALIAN airfield
Amazingly, Antarctica got A.
Amazingly, Antarctica got A.
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Y = AUSTRALIAN airfield
Amazingly, Antarctica got A.
Whilst we’re on topic Eric,
Other country identifiers to name a few are,
Canada =C
Alaska =P
US& A = K
Hawaii = P
Germany = E
Japan = R
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Twistgrip
E is northern Europe, the second letter gives away the country so Germany is EDxx
E is northern Europe, the second letter gives away the country so Germany is EDxx
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bl@ckers wrote:It may be worth mentioning:
YMLT
Y = airfield
M = under melbourne centre (B for Brisbane or P for Perth)
LT = Launceston
If the airfield is uncontrolled it will not include the second letter as an M, B or P, it will simply be a 3 letter shortened version of the airfield name (YKII = King Island)
Sorry I just need to correct/query this, what about YBLT YBNA YPLU YPKU YPKG all non-towered aerodromes?
You are correct for P - Perth in the case of Kununurra and Kalgoorlie, which is why Adelaide is also YPAD.
and now for something completely different
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Sydney is controlled, I assume and is YSSY......
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Meatloaf, some of the 3-letter designators start with B, or S, P or M. Ballarat, Parkes, and so on.
And YSSY is Y (Australia) S (Sydney region) SY (Sydney)
You also find that the navaids associated with the various locations will have codes that match the airfield - a 2-letter morse code for those that have 2 letters, and a 3-letter squawk for the 3-letter places. In cases like Sydney where there are multiple navaids, they try to make the codes have relevance but not always possible. In the bad old days, SY NDB was out the back of Holsworthy, nowhere near the airfield, but it lined you up with Rwy 07.
And YSSY is Y (Australia) S (Sydney region) SY (Sydney)
You also find that the navaids associated with the various locations will have codes that match the airfield - a 2-letter morse code for those that have 2 letters, and a 3-letter squawk for the 3-letter places. In cases like Sydney where there are multiple navaids, they try to make the codes have relevance but not always possible. In the bad old days, SY NDB was out the back of Holsworthy, nowhere near the airfield, but it lined you up with Rwy 07.
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The second letter after the ‘Y’ came from when Australia was split in to 4 different flight information regions; Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Perth.
i.e YMLT for Launceston, YSCB for Canberra, etc.
When we consolidated the FIRs in to just Melbourne and Brisbane, it was too much hassle to rename all the airports so the Perth and Sydney Regions kept their codes.
i.e YMLT for Launceston, YSCB for Canberra, etc.
When we consolidated the FIRs in to just Melbourne and Brisbane, it was too much hassle to rename all the airports so the Perth and Sydney Regions kept their codes.
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Or just throw a 'Y' in front of the IATA code like America did with their 'K' for every aerodrome.
and now for something completely different
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