HUET
- helothere
- Sensei
- Posts: 1089
- Joined: Sep 2005
HUET
Before I did a HUET course with careflight I thought I'd be OK if I had to ditch in water. Just get out, right? How wrong I was. After doing the theory and getting dunked a few times I was amazed at how disoriented I became under water. Removing the seatbelt too soon means floating up to the floor of the aircraft (you will most likely be upside down). Add to that darkness, cold, panic and water up the nose and you may start to get an idea of what you are up against.
The training provided is excellent and I am now confident that I am armed with skills that may one day see me through a sticky situation. Look up careflight here - http://www.careflightsafety.com.au/
If you EVER fly over water then do a HUET course.
The training provided is excellent and I am now confident that I am armed with skills that may one day see me through a sticky situation. Look up careflight here - http://www.careflightsafety.com.au/
If you EVER fly over water then do a HUET course.
- Capt Moron
- Silver Wings
- Posts: 17
- Joined: Nov 2005
Helicopter Underwater Escape Training (HUET) is certainly a worthwhile investment if you plan to fly over water.
Helothere is spot on about his pre-HUET belief that he would have stood a good chance of getting out of an inverted helicopter. Having a HUET course increases those odds from "kidding yourself" to having a "very good chance" of escape.
Inverted, cold sea - a very hostile environment for a human. Add to that any injuries sustained on impact and you have yourself a very big challenge for survival!
If you plan to fly over water - regardless of the depth or time of exposure - I would recommend spending the $500 (approx). Cheap insurance, as they say!
CM
Helothere is spot on about his pre-HUET belief that he would have stood a good chance of getting out of an inverted helicopter. Having a HUET course increases those odds from "kidding yourself" to having a "very good chance" of escape.
Inverted, cold sea - a very hostile environment for a human. Add to that any injuries sustained on impact and you have yourself a very big challenge for survival!
If you plan to fly over water - regardless of the depth or time of exposure - I would recommend spending the $500 (approx). Cheap insurance, as they say!
CM
Man walks into a bar....OUCH!
- phugoyd
- Moderator
- Posts: 459
- Joined: Oct 2005
Now HUET trained
Well that was brilliant and i agree with all that has been said above. I have just completed my HUET training down at sale.
Just the basic order that they teach you to get out is so important. Most people would just pop the seat belt and find themselves floating around without any clue where to get out. You would be pulling on all kinds of things thinking they are door handles, bubbles, maps and clothing wrapping around your face.
I listened to a few people who had done the course and thought i would have a good idea of what to do with there explanation but you have to do the whole course to really have a chance.
http://www.red-alert.com.au/sstrainingws.html
JUST DO IT.
Just the basic order that they teach you to get out is so important. Most people would just pop the seat belt and find themselves floating around without any clue where to get out. You would be pulling on all kinds of things thinking they are door handles, bubbles, maps and clothing wrapping around your face.
I listened to a few people who had done the course and thought i would have a good idea of what to do with there explanation but you have to do the whole course to really have a chance.
http://www.red-alert.com.au/sstrainingws.html
JUST DO IT.
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- Silver Wings
- Posts: 67
- Joined: Feb 2006
I've done both the Careflight and Red Alert course and can recommend both highly.
The facilities down at West Sale (Red Alert) are fantastic and the training crews very professional.
I believe the naval training school at Nowra has a method of simulating weather as part of their HUET training..ie high winds, waves, choppy seas etc.
The facilities down at West Sale (Red Alert) are fantastic and the training crews very professional.
I believe the naval training school at Nowra has a method of simulating weather as part of their HUET training..ie high winds, waves, choppy seas etc.
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- Silver Wings
- Posts: 95
- Joined: Mar 2006
Anybody who doubts the benefits of HUET training should read the following linked article:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_98540172
It's a good example of what happens when you do it right compared to doing it wrong, I think Rusty got out through sheer luck.
Has anyone had any experience using HEEDS?
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_98540172
It's a good example of what happens when you do it right compared to doing it wrong, I think Rusty got out through sheer luck.
Has anyone had any experience using HEEDS?
- phugoyd
- Moderator
- Posts: 459
- Joined: Oct 2005
Heeds
I enquired last year about this product and got this reply.
Transaero.
http://www.transaeroinc.com/catalog.cfm?fuseaction=listProductLine&category=pilot&searchType=productLine
We are pleased to quote the following.
108399 SEA MK 1 A$760.00 delivery 14 days.
100698 UMP Black A$85.00 delivery ex-stock.
108325 Cylinder Fill adapter A$130.00 delivery 14 days
Plus Freight and GST.
Regards Mike Kinnane
Jet Spares International Ptyhttp:[url]//www.jetspares.com.au/index.htm[/url]
Ph 03 9 379 9437 Fax 03 9 379 9438
Transaero.
http://www.transaeroinc.com/catalog.cfm?fuseaction=listProductLine&category=pilot&searchType=productLine
We are pleased to quote the following.
108399 SEA MK 1 A$760.00 delivery 14 days.
100698 UMP Black A$85.00 delivery ex-stock.
108325 Cylinder Fill adapter A$130.00 delivery 14 days
Plus Freight and GST.
Regards Mike Kinnane
Jet Spares International Ptyhttp:[url]//www.jetspares.com.au/index.htm[/url]
Ph 03 9 379 9437 Fax 03 9 379 9438
- Train Crash
- Gold Wings
- Posts: 104
- Joined: Apr 2006
Huet Course
The HUET course has been the talking point at out base for the last week or so.
We have decided to put all line pilots through the course by the end of the year. The theory before that was if you ditch and make it out alive"don't swim towards land or the boss might catch up with you".
It can only be a good thing, hate to lose a team member.
Cheers
Train Crash
We have decided to put all line pilots through the course by the end of the year. The theory before that was if you ditch and make it out alive"don't swim towards land or the boss might catch up with you".
It can only be a good thing, hate to lose a team member.
Cheers
Train Crash
- CYHeli
- 4th Dan
- Posts: 1825
- Joined: Jun 2006
HUET - a must do
I just did a HUET with CareFlight and I can't believe that my original helicopter instructors didn't recomment this to me when doing my CPL training. TomOz, great link, that's a good reminder of why we train.
I live and fly in Melbourne. Most of the flights to and from the city are along the bay. If the noise stops, I would think that 99% of the time I will make land, but it only takes 1% of the times to go wrong. In the scheme of things, $500 odd for a HUET is very little when held up against the CPL training.
Anyone flying in Sydney or Qld that flies along the coast, or goes island hopping, think very carefully about it. If the a/c goes in the drink, the water and a/c don't care if you have a PPL or a CPL. If you have a spouse who flies over water with you, get them to do it too. For a PPL, family are the equivalent of the aircrew that news crews or other commercial operators carry. They do the training under OH&S, so why not family?
Do I sound converted? You bet.
I live and fly in Melbourne. Most of the flights to and from the city are along the bay. If the noise stops, I would think that 99% of the time I will make land, but it only takes 1% of the times to go wrong. In the scheme of things, $500 odd for a HUET is very little when held up against the CPL training.
Anyone flying in Sydney or Qld that flies along the coast, or goes island hopping, think very carefully about it. If the a/c goes in the drink, the water and a/c don't care if you have a PPL or a CPL. If you have a spouse who flies over water with you, get them to do it too. For a PPL, family are the equivalent of the aircrew that news crews or other commercial operators carry. They do the training under OH&S, so why not family?
Do I sound converted? You bet.
- Low Time
- Gold Wings
- Posts: 170
- Joined: Mar 2006
I was with CYHeli for HUET. Can only agree with the comments. In controlled conditions it was daunting enough. Never mind if it happened at night. The feeling of being in the dunker, holding your breath, not being able to see and having it roll thru 180 deg. All I can say is if you get the opportunity to do the training Go For It!! It will save your life.
- Dunker
- Silver Wings
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Jul 2007
HUET training sydney
Has anyone done HUET recently?
Or can anyone recommend a HUET provider? Preferably in the Sydney area.
Thanks,
Dunker.
Or can anyone recommend a HUET provider? Preferably in the Sydney area.
Thanks,
Dunker.
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- 2nd Dan
- Posts: 476
- Joined: Oct 2006
CareFlight Safety run a HUET course in the sydney area.
You can see a list of their upcoming huet courses here.
You can see a list of their upcoming huet courses here.
- Twistgrip
- 4th Dan
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- Desertflyer
- 1st Dan
- Posts: 214
- Joined: Jul 2006
I was getting the feeling no one does it in W.A. (Wait Awhile), but apparently IFAP does it in Fremantle in the Freo harbour. Cool.
Any one done it with these fellows?
Any one done it with these fellows?
Basic Flying Rules: "Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not go near the edges of it. The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground, buildings, sea, trees and interstellar space. It is much more difficult to fly there."
- Tightly Wound
- Silver Wings
- Posts: 32
- Joined: May 2007
HUET Training?
I guess that would be Helicopter Underwater Escape Training training!
Sorry I'll stop being a tool! Careflight does a ripper job up here in QLD. I hate water and I'm sick of doing it, but I'm glad I've done it.
Cheers
TW
Sorry I'll stop being a tool! Careflight does a ripper job up here in QLD. I hate water and I'm sick of doing it, but I'm glad I've done it.
Cheers
TW
There's a nutter on every bus.
Have a look around and if you can't see one, it's you.
Have a look around and if you can't see one, it's you.
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- Silver Wings
- Posts: 35
- Joined: Jul 2007
HUET
There is ERGT in Perth who run HUET. www.ergt.com.au
- Izzy Fullashat
- Gold Wings
- Posts: 116
- Joined: Dec 2007
Re: HUET
Hi All
Just a quick question about HUET. How long is the HUET certificate valid for? Or is it perpetual.
Izzy (Dont want to be)
Just a quick question about HUET. How long is the HUET certificate valid for? Or is it perpetual.
Izzy (Dont want to be)
OHH!!! CRAP I still cant come up with a catchy saying!!!!!!!
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