ROTORJOCK wrote:heliduck
I call bull on this one.(Can we get a smily with a picture of a Bulls excrement?)
If you're flying any machine which requires the collective to be down far enough to disengage the Hobbs switch during an auto I suggest either the Hobbs switch needs relocating/adjusting or take it straight to an engineer before you kill yourself as it is rigged incorrectly.
This thread was actually about how different flight times were being logged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And when on the ground collective down the hobbs does not work, upon entering an auto collective goes ALL the way down!! upon the collective being put all the way down the same as if you were on the ground the hobbs will not work. now if the little micro switch is in the wrong place/needs adjustment, well like you said thats for an engineer to figure out. but as long as the controls ie collective, cyclic and pedals work if a auto is required at any stage in my flying career i really wont be worrying about the said micro switch.
Here's your smiley face.
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And you can do whatever you like with your bull, teach it tricks for all that it matters.
someone always gotta start a slinging match!
So touchy after 3 months, you're going to find it tough in here.
I believe the question has been answered by a number of people - In Kiwiland they log collective time & in Oz they log rotors in motion. Excellent, thanks.
Maybe I should start a seperate thread for this topic - Regarding hobbs activation, yes the collective goes all the way down for a few seconds as an immediate response to a power loss which would activate the micro-switch & stop the hobbs, no arguement there. My point is that any machine should be rigged so that when at minimum AUW & the collective fully down the RRPM should increase in Auto maintaining a constant heading, therefore requiring a raising of the collective to control the RRPM, hence disengaging the microswitch again & starting the hobbs. Imagine the amount of adjusting it would take to rig a machine so that with the collective fully down the RRPM stayed stable at just the weight you happen to be on the day you do the auto, not to mention in 1/2hours time when you've burnt fuel. How do you control RRPM in auto, with the collective of course. It is very dificult to force the collective through the floor to control RRPM, so you must raise it slightly, correct? I know you can do turns etc to increase RRPM, but with height disappearing fast & the only clear spot directly in front of you, S-turns to maintain RRPM would not be desirable.
At the end of the day if you are aware of the fact that a machine isn't rigged correctly & you choose to fly it that's your call, but don't say you weren't warned if the worst should happen. I stand by my comments that 2 hours of autos with .9 on the clock is either a tall tale or an incorrectly rigged machine.